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November 17, 2005 Rebuttal
Yesterday someone left a comment on my old posts about eugenics and family planning. To spare you all the bother of digging it up: I'm doing research for one of my classes at school and came across this blog. I'm seriously considering going to school to become a genetic counselor after graduation. I have interned with a great group and feel like it is something I would not only enjoy but would be good at as well.
Before you judge me for my career choice, I feel like there are some things that should be considered from the other side of the coin. First, if a genetic counselor or any other health care professional was encouraging any one to get an abortion, then you should exercise your autonomous rights and find a new doctor. Oh, absolutely. Because what with the amazing availability of doctors and, in the US, the flexibility of HMOs in allowing you to select any doctor you'd like, this is easily done. Just open them yellow pages! It might have helped if you'd decided to learn a bit more about myself and my family history before coming to the conclusion that this is just a matter of a few bad apples. Frances and I have seen seven separate teams of specialists and medical professionals, who can be divided roughly into two camps: the geneticists, who felt there was something "wrong" and made diagnoses to refer us to experts, and the experts, who felt there might be something "wrong" but nothing they could pin down. And since all this happened much too late for anyone to even bring up abortion, I never had to be "counseled" on that--instead I was offered advice on how to decide whether I should risk my own genetic material on the next generation or not. That is unprofessional, not to mention unethical and immoral. Second, the way health care works these days, whether government or private health care, costs must be minimized. This includes "prescreening" those with family histories of genetic annomolies for further testing. Genetic screening for any disorder is almost always offered to every pregnant woman. However, it is more cost efficient (a savings that eventually returns to us) to emphasize genetic tests for those those families that health officials know to have a greater chance of having a child with an identifiable disorder, which is mainly women with advanced maternal age and those with family histories. Testing assumes of course that the mother (and father) want their fetus to be tested, which leads me to the thrid point.
Wouldn't it be lovely if it actually worked like that? A) "Cost savings," especially in the case of T21, is most often obtained through fetuses aborted, and this is the measure used to define success in the majority of papers I've read on the subject. B) "Identifiable disorders" is interpretd rather broadly, in my experience, and will include anyone who is identifiably different regardless of whether or not they have any "disorders." Testing is not perfect. There is a chance that every genetic test will give a false-positive (positively tested fetus born without T21, for example) or a false-negative (negatively tested fetus born with T21). While the chances for a false test depend on the type of test and the gestational period the test is conducted in, they are generally slim, but possible.
You have got to be kidding me. The rate of false positives for any disorder outweighs the true positives by a vast amount. Unless, of course, you are talking only about the definitive tests (i.e. amnio) and not the screenings. It is, of course, the screenings that most women are subjected to, and I know several mothers of my own acquaintance who were screened positively for conditions their children do not have. Testing is also not possible for many disorders, problems, or quirks. In the original posting, you asked why children with learning disabilities, violent tendencies, cancer and heart disase aren't tested for. The answer is because there is no way to test for them, and this is not a "cop-out." The traits listed above do not have a single genetic cause or even multiple genetic causes that anyone is yet aware of.
And why aren't we aware of them? Could it be because, say, there aren't as many scientists interested in unlocking the secrets of something they see as "normal" vs. something they see as "abnormal"? Also, the world one lives in plays a momentous role in the development of these problems as well, and reducing the cause to soley a genetic factor is most likely never going to happen. But, that is not to say that many gifted scientists aren't working on locating genetic sites where mutations could cause predispositions to developing these problems (for more info, look at the extensive research of hereditary breast, ovarian, and colon cancer, all having sites that have been identified as increasing the chances of getting cancer, but none actually causing cancer without environmental factors playing a role.)
Height, too, is determined by several interacting genes as well as environmental factors. But these subtle nuances did not keep my little girl out of the medical merry-go-round. The fact is--whether you want to hear it or not--that her size was considered a "problem" that should affect my future reproductive choices. The fact that she was healthy, bright, happy, loveable and loving was all secondary to her height; whereas someone with children who are vicious, violent and mean (but a normal size) would not be sent off for specialized medical testing or subjected to well-meaning speeches about "what can be done" for "next time" if you "decide you want to try again," and "what your options are." It has been made crystal-clear to me that should I decide to be pregnant again, I will be followed closely to monitor the baby's size. Why? To what end? They can't treat it or prevent it, there are no associated health problems, and gods know Frances is a wonderful child who any parent would be lucky to have. The only possible outcome of such "testing" and following would be to offer me the choice of an abortion should another fetus be similarly "affected." And solely on the basis of size. Finally, I just don't buy that the practice of genetic screening is eugenics. No one is forced to be tested.
Right. So when Frances's first doctor told me that she should see genetics because her "eyes were too big" (and you know, she took a genetics course in medical school!) and she was too small so there had to be something "wrong," though her health was perfect, and when the second doctor (who at least wasn't pushing formula on us to "fix" her size) said he would only take her on as a patient if we took her in to genetics, and when there were no other pediatricians who would take on new patients without a referral (that I couldn't get) or unless they were newborns--what would you call it? I suppose I had the option to not have any doctor for her at all. No one is forced to hear results from the test.
Noooo.... Because if they call you up on the phone and speak in a pained, hushed voice about "the doctor wanting to make an appointment this week," it won't make a pregnant woman panic. Or if they sit you down at your regular prenatal appointment and say something about echogenic bowels or elevated estrogen levels, you can just plug your ears and pretend you didn't hear them. No one is forced to abort.
Nope. Only "encouraged." Only to have it offered--sometimes multiple times. Genetic counselors are not trained to practice any form of eugenics - they are trained to inform to the best of their ability. They want to make sure that you have the best and the most information about your pregnancy that you can so that you can make the choice you want to make. It is an inescapable fact that society looks down on those that aren't "normal." However, the goal of genetic counselors is not to perpetuate this practice, but rather to inform and educate the mother of every option for that unboron child. You argue that eugenics are practiced because children may be born with a condition that makes them look different. The main reason for informing parents that a fetus may have T21, for example, is not to warn them that their child may look different. More importantly, it is to inform the parents that T21 has several potentiall lethal traits that come with it, including heart and bowel defects that left untreated (they require invasive surgery to fix) the newborn may die within days. Physical malformations that may threaten the life of the child often accompany genetic disorders. Even "desirable" traits, like tallness, are associated with inherited disorders. For example, those with Marfan Syndrome are very tall (great if you are a basketball player, which many are), but they also can have enlarged hearts, a dangerous condition if you are an athlete.
First of all, you are assuming that genetic counselors themselves are somehow free of the biases that permeate the rest of society, and won't allow those biases to influence the options they present to their clients, the testing they recommend, their tone in imparting diagnoses, and so on--in short, you are assuming that genetics counselors (and other medical professionals) are not human. Of course, they are, and any mother of a very small child can tell you that which doctor your child sees will have a tremendous impact on whether or not their size is viewed as a "problem" and what, if anything, you should do about it. They could also tell you that women of their acquaintance with very large children are normally not reffered to genetics because doctors tend not to see it as pathological, despite the existence of Marfan syndrome (which, yes, I am aware of). Secondly, you are ignoring the entire system of genetics counseling. The point is not that individual genetics counselors are intent on wiping out certain traits. The point is that the whole system is based on what human traits are normal or desirable, and which are not, and that this is seldom based on what is medically treatable. How, besides eugenics, do you explain the substantial literature measuring the success of T21 prenatal screening by the number of such pregnancies terminated? These are not scientists intent on learning the diagnosis so that they can treat the babies before they die--they are scientists intent on eliminating T21 as a human characteristic. Their papers are full of cost-benefit analyses based on the savings of not having to treat T21 because of the terminated pregnancies. That's not eugenics to you? How do you explain why my baby girl was referred to genetics in the first place? There wasn't a single doctor, not one, who ever believed she was or would ever be sick. There was not a single doctor, not one, who ever believed she did or would ever need treatment of any kind, or indeed that there was any treatment in existence that could benefit her. The entire experience had no impact on her medical care whatsoever. The only reason we were referred was because one doctor thought her eyes looked funny, and another doctor thought she was awfully small; the only result we have from the entire thing is a resounding agreement that she is tiny, but healthy (something everybody already knew), and that our chances for recurrence in a future pregnancy range up to 25% (though no one precisely knows becuase no one knows why she is small). In short, the only possible result of this is to make Erik and I feel that our genes are somehow substandard and we are being awfully cavalier if we decide to inflict shortness on another child. My point is, like all professions, genetic counseling is not perfect. But they work in the best way they can to educate and inform others so that they can have the best most accurate information available,regardless of what the parents ultimately decide to choose.
I think you need to be prepared that the people who see you may have a very different view of your services than you do. How do you explain the women with prenatally diagnosed T21 fetuses who were repeatedly offered abortions? "Do you want to terminate? Are you sure? Are you really sure? Is it because someone else won't let you? Do you know how hard this is going to be? The baby could be sick! The baby could be dependant on you for life! Read this brochure. Are you sure you don't want to terminate?" Over and over for the whole pregnancy. Is that neutrally presenting information and respecting a mother's choice? NO. Believe it or not, after two years of experience with genetics counseling and testing, I am aware of the stated purpose of the project. It certainly does not reflect my experience, or the experience of most of the women I know. I frankly don't care whether you "buy" that it's eugenics or not. But if you are so unreceptive to the stories of the populations you are purportedly interested in treating, I shudder to think of the experiences of your eventual patients. I have seen four geneticists, three pediatricians, a skeletal dysplasias expert and a craniofacial team; Frances has had chromosomal testing, genetics blood tests and bone scans; I have several women of my acquaintance who have been through prenatal genetics screenings of various kinds; and I know several women whose children are affected with different kinds of syndromes; and I know one other woman whose small baby girl was referred to genetics also solely on the basis of her small size in the absence of any signs of illness or trouble. You might want to sit up and pay attention to their stories, including the stories of their experiences with genetic testing pre- and post-natally, because if this is what you want to do with your life this is the population you are going to serve. And if they are experiencing this as a eugenicist project, then that might tell you something valuable and important that you can use in your practice. That is, if you aren't too busy being defensive to hear it. Posted by Andrea at November 17, 2005 9:02 AM under Doctors, Geneticists and Other Charlatans EMAIL this entry (comments fields are below this section) Comments You sing it, Andrea! I have never experienced any genetics counselling personally, but everyone I know who has has told me the same story you have...that pre-natally they've all been encouraged to abort. That post-natally they've all been encouraged to not have more babies. Eugenics describes it perfectly. Posted by: liz at November 17, 2005 10:27 AM
There's an article in today's globe&mail about genetics counselling, Down's syndrome, and whether this all amounts to eugenics (Margaret Wente's column - if you don't subscribe, you can still find the article by googling through Google News). I immediately thought of you and Frances and of that post of yours. I think you have a very strong, valid point - and it's scary to think of our society heading that way. *sigh* Posted by: parodie at November 17, 2005 1:00 PM
Thank you, parodie. That was a great column. It's too bad it's subscription-only or I'd link to it. Posted by: Andrea at November 17, 2005 1:46 PM
I wholeheartedly agree. The professions that test and abort and what-not are going to go on (and people will still use these services for eugenics reasoning, and insurance companies may discriminate based on these tests). I suppose some people will use the results of the testing so that they can get educated and better prepared for their baby (when they have and keep it). Some people will find out that their baby has so many problems it won't live to (or much past birth). And, boy, do I ever hope that the majority of the reasoning behind the testing is the former situation! I am so sorry you had to go through those multiple suggestions and the cruelty. Frances is beautiful and I am glad she came to "be", and to grow up in your loving home. Posted by: Running2Ks at November 17, 2005 5:02 PM
I'm glad I read this post. I felt the need to reply. I was a high risk pregnancy, was highly advised to abort not by one but by 5 doctors at two different hospitals, all with different medical expertises. Supposedly my health was at grave risk. I was given 10% chance of a good outcome with mother and baby making it. We both made it, we are both here today. My son does have special needs which are in relation to some rare skeletal disorder that I have, which I did not know what hereditary. I do not regreat my decision what so ever. Although I struggle everyday, these struggles have enriched me as a person. I'm glad I did not listen to those five doctors. I have a beautiful six year old son. Posted by: LauraJ at November 17, 2005 5:10 PM
Let me get this straight. You are pro-choice for yourself and others who are pregnant at what they deem to be an inopportune time in life, but condemning of women who choose to terminate a pregancy when the baby has Trisomy-21? I find that hypocritical. You make me, and others who walked in my shoes, sound like the unwitting victims of latter-day Nazis. Or maybe just bad people. Posted by: Songbird at November 17, 2005 5:39 PM
Songbird, I would never, ever judge a woman who made a choice to terminate, regardless of her reasons--it's not my place to do so. But after two years of genetics counselling and specialist advice, I feel I'm quite well qualified to judge the system as it's set up. It is that system, and only that system, that I am judging. We, as a society, are very hypocritical about this. There are provinces in Canada where you cannot determine the sex prenatally in case you decide to abort if it's a girl, but you can get the full gamut of tests and decide to abort if it has cleft palate or dwarfism. How else can you describe it, but eugenics? Just as it is possible to critique a sexist society which puts different expectations and pressures on women and men, leading them to make different choices, without criticizing the actual choices individual people make, it is possible to critique the system of genetics counselling that we have in place without critiquing the choices of individual people in that system. The system is fucked. up. I'm glad you made a decision you feel good about. Truly. But I know far too many mothers of T21 children who were pressured after the prenatal diagnosis to abort--who had doctors who were shocked and upset that they weren't going to abort. It is a not a neutral system that supports equally the choices of all women. It is not a system that is dedicated to bettering the human condition through eradicating disease. In substantial part in some quarters, it is a system that is abetting and condoning and in some cases promoting the eradication of some kinds of human characteristics. Of course I understand all the reasons you list for why a woman would choose to terminate such a pregnancy. More fundamentally, it doesn't matter whether I understand it or not, because it's not my decision to make. What I want to see is a genetics counselling system that actually does what it's supposed to--present all women with real options. With complete and unbiased information, and not scare tactics. With no pressure. Without the focus on cosmetic differences. I want to see a genetic system that would not have put my family through two years of hell because my daughter is SMALL. Oh, and her eyes are big. Posted by: Andrea at November 17, 2005 6:24 PM
Andrea, thank you for blogging about this.....peace, TM Posted by: Tara Marie at December 15, 2005 11:24 AM
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