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February 9, 2006 Too Smart for Your Own Good
Rather than continuing to clutter up my own comments or the thread on Always Listen to your Pig Puppet, I thought I'd respond to Lucy's posts and some of the comments from my last post in a new entry instead. First, two separate comments from Jennifer: So, Andrea: how will your experiences change what you do for your daughter? I would think it would make you want to homeschool. No? So tell us: when _were_ you intellectually challenged? Or is that next?
The topic of education for my own kids is already a headache. I can legally enroll my daughter in junior kindergarten next year, when she's 3 1/2, and I think I probably will. She is already ready for it, in my totally unbiased opinion, and after my own experiences I don't see the value in holding her back just for the sake of keeping her with kids her own age, especially since no matter how old she is she will always look so much younger. Realistically, "fitting in" is going to be difficult and complicated no matter what we decide to do. If I were up to homeschooling, and we could afford it, I think I'd give it a try. But frankly, I'm not cut out to homeschool. I'm too impatient, and too easily distracted; FE needs a good teacher. I am not a good teacher. What I'd really love to do is find a school for her (and for any other kids that might follow) that matches her. Kids do have different learning styles, and I think different educational approaches work best for different kids. I imagine we will be sending her to public school to see how she does, and if it is obviously not a good match, we'll investigate other options at that time. It may be that we don't have any. I'm sure there's a great school out there for her, but really, we don't have a lot of money. If we're convinced it's the right thing for her we'll do our best, try for scholarships, beg the grandparents, what have you; but finances are an unfortunate limitation. We'll have to cross that bridge when we come to it. As to when I was intellectually challenged: Good question. I can remember a number of times when I was intellectually involved, but I'm not sure any of them were really challenging, if you define that as a time when I was worried that I might not get it. The only time I can clearly remember not being able to keep up in class was when I was on exchange in Germany and didn't speak the language, which does tend to make things difficult. I could barely state my name, age and address when I first arrived; physics in German was definitely beyond me. It didn't happen in school, ever. There are a handful of moments I can recall when a teacher or professor started talking about something new, and I had a mental twinge of fear: "woah, this is going to be hard!" Then five minutes later it dissipated when I realized that it wasn't actually going to be hard after all. This continued into my Masters program (and is one reason why I don't feel badly about not finishing it). I mean, I spent only two or three hours a week total on my courses for my Masters, and I got As. Isn't there something wrong with that picture? For me, the deleterious impact of this--the ability to do what I wanted to do well enough to satisfy myself without having to work hard--was twofold: I didn't learn how to work hard, and I didn't learn how to fail. Not learning how to work hard and the problems that can cause is self-evident, probably--most of my classmates from the enhanced programme are not wild successes in the world, and I believe this is because intelligence is a smaller factor in mainstream success than is hard work. I've been reading books about writing (again!) and the thing that strikes me time and time again is how often the authors say that the writers who succeed are the ones who are persistent, who work hard; that the most talented writers they know aren't writing. So clearly it is important to face something challenging enough that one learns how to work hard (I will probably come back to this); but I am only now learning how important it is to learn how to fail. The first thing I wanted to do well at and couldn't without effort was motherhood. Thank god that my daughter was a fussy baby. It was the first time in my life that I was brought up hard against my own limitations and had to seriously contemplate failure at something I passionately wanted to do well at. It wasn't intellectually challenging, but it was challenging, and that's enough. I don't think it's any accident that only now am I able to seriously contemplate a decade or so of rejection notices in the pursuit of publication. Learning how to fail--learning that failure isn't fatal, that it's possible to try again, that one can learn from failure and do better next time--you know, this should be obvious. But when you've never failed at anything you wanted to succeed at, it's easy (for me) to become so terrified of even temporary setbacks that it's easier not to try. Now that I'm a bit more desensitized to the prospect of needing to actually work hard at something before I can do it well, I also find fiction to be an intellectual challenge. Of course, knocking off a short story that has a few characters, a "plot" in the most common sense of the word, a denouement and a conclusion, isn't difficult. But doing it well is damned near impossible. It doesn't help that I've set my sights so high (if I can't write the way Margaret Atwood and Ursula le Guin can, what's the point?), but on the other hand, it does help, because it makes it a challenge. So there you go. For instance, I'm working on a story set on the same world as the one I posted on Drafts a while ago, only this one about a Fire Dancer with a young daughter. The daughter is killing me. She keeps wanting to be five, but she can't be five, or there's no story. She has to be two. But she won't act two. What's a writer to do? And some responses to Lucy's posts: As Andrea's post showed, streaming certainly isn't a perfect solution. I don't think skipping grades is either, though, because it's the pace that's crippling, rather than the material. The montessori system has always sounded heavenly to me, but I can't see that becoming mainstream....
After 20 years at school, I don't have much to show for it. The main thing I've learnt is how to amuse myself, and how to calculate the bare minimum required to get by. Unfortunately, I'm no longer studying because I have to be here; there is no final exam I can cram for. I should be working because I'm interested and curious and excited about what I'm doing. I'm still acting like I'm just killing time until I can do my own thing, but this is my own thing. I still get flashes of excitement when trying to figure out something conceptual, but I suck at motivating myself to do the daily experiments and reading required to get to the fun part. I guess I should qualify my enthusiasm for skipping by saying that I think it would have been better for me. I have, after all, an accelerated life span; part of my reasoning for not continuing with school (besides being bored of it) was knowing that I would end up graduating with a PhD at midlife. I knew I wanted to have a home, maybe a family, and a chance of paying off my student loans before I died, so the prospect of getting started on all that at 30 was discouraging. Thirty might seem a late enough start when you think you're going to live to 85; when you think you might not hit 60, it's another thing altogether. So for me, skipping grades might have meant ending up with that PhD, or even just a Masters, at an age that would let me do all of those other things. Of course, most people in the situation don't have chronic illnesses that shorten their expected lifespans, so this might not be a consideration for anyone but me. (And I have to add that I'm fond of the Montessori method, too.) The other paragraph brings us back nicely to the problem of working hard: Two anecdotes: 1. There was a story of a girl who had once been in the enhanced classes that took on mythical status in our class. This girl had tested high and been placed in the enhanced stream. She was thrilled, and she worked hard and led the class (this was in the elementary grades, before specialized subjects). At the end of the year, the administrators said, "Woops, we made a mistake. You're not enhanced after all. Back you go. Sorry about that!" Yet the truth remains that she did exceptionally well with all of that (oh-so-challenging) enhanced material. Hard work counts for a lot, even in that subset of the population. The most illustrative facet of this might be that someone who is bright and works hard can easily trump someone who's brilliant and doesn't work hard. But hard work is a learned skill. It's influenced by predisposition, I'm sure; but most people who don't have to work hard don't. When people win the lottery or are born heiresses, they don't work for money. And when people win a big brain, usually, they don't work for grades. 2. In a book on baby brain development I love the author recounts an experiment in which young children were told they were gifted (when they weren't), and placed in a gifted class with a teacher who was also told the children were gifted. At the end of the year, they all showed marked improvement in their aptitude test scores. So besides hard work and aptitude, the belief of oneself and of others also counts for a lot, and extra attention and support is a benefit to anyone. One possible reading (and one I like) is that it is a parent's god-given JOB to believe their kids are capable of just about anything. Because your belief in them has an actual, measurable impact, as does their belief in themselves. Fostering confidence in children not only makes them happier, but more capable. Intelligence, raw intellectual aptitude, is not worth much all by itself. If it is properly supported and developed, it can be; but it won't just happen. Anymore than someone with an inborn talent for playing the piano will spontaneously develop into a world-class pianist. Regardless of aptitude, one needs challenging education and training. One also needs the belief and support of others, opportunities to fail and to learn from failure. One needs tasks and goals that are challenging enough to stretch one's abilities. If a gifted programme can't provide this then, frankly, it is failing its students. I looked up the literature in my current school board area for education for gifted students, and it said: programming is based on Ontario Curriculum expectations at the appropriate grade level, which is differentiated through depth, breadth, pace and kind in order to address students' differing learning needs and styles
What is the point of that? How can you possibly speed up the pace if you are keeping kids chained to the curriculum? And increasing depth and breadth basically adds up to "the same as for other kids, but moreso." This is exactly what was delivered to me and my classmates twenty years ago. There is, apparently, a National Association for Gifted Children. In their policy statement on differentiating curricula for gifted students, they state: Acceleration, aka skipping grades, if anyone is interested.
The more I read, the more I think that public schools are just poorly equipped to deal with this. Public schools are for the mass processing of students, and are not going to handle any student who doesn't fit into the standard model particularly well, regardless of the subject matter or the direction of difference. So--given that most parents don't have the option to homeschool, or the income for private school--what is the solution? .... I can see this tying in nicely with a subject I'm planning on bringing up shortly, though it will seem to be quite a shift in direction. Posted by Andrea at February 9, 2006 10:17 AM under Me EMAIL this entry (comments fields are below this section) Trackback Pings TrackBack URL for this entry: Comments I just realised my list of times I felt challenged, was actually just a list of times I felt involved, after all... The closest I came was thinking I might not get the highest grade possible, and in each case that went away with a bit of work. Posted by: lucy at February 9, 2006 12:59 PM
OK, let me submit this: For gifted children, working for grades is pointless. Because it's too easy to get good grades, as both you and Lucy say. Smart kids only do the bare minimum to get by. Maybe that's why the times I felt intellectually challenged were the times I took classes for fun, and where the work consisted of writing computer programs. Because sure, the exercise the book gave me was dumb, but it was easy to see where they were going with it & I could modify the exercise to see -- hm, what would happen if I did this? So I was getting a base education in class & then after class I'd take it a step further. Is that the Montessori method? I have heard Montessori described many times but haven't seen it in action so I'm not sure I really understand. I would love for my children not to have to sit behind a desk in a school. My son is a kinetic learner & an independent thinker & will probably suck at a traditional school. My daughter is very verbal and social & I can't imagine that sitting in lecture will appeal to her. I'm not sure what their options are. I might be a good teacher but I'm not sure that I would be a good teacher to my own children -- sometimes they frustrate me beyond endurance. Awaiting your solution : ) Posted by: Jennifer at February 9, 2006 6:34 PM
Lucy, that was my attitude with sports: I didn't care, so not doing well didn't bother me. Jennifer, from what I understand, the Montessori theory is that kids will learn if they are given the opportunity. So you have a 'prepared environment,' and let the kids go to. It's mostly self-directed, kind of like homeschooling on a larger scale. Frances's first daycare worker was trained in Montessori and she was great, Frances got to pick whatever she was interested in and the daycare worker would engage with her on that. The idea is that kids are naturally curious so as long as schools don't stamp the curiosity out of them, kids will learn no matter what. So I think in your example the Montessori method would have been if the computers where there, and the exercise books were there, and the teacher was there, but there was no lesson. All the students got to pick up whatever was interesting to them and the teacher was there to facilitate and assist, not instruct. I wish I had a solution. I think that public schools are geared more for cost-effectiveness than educational effectiveness, and the whole idea of dealing with kids as individuals probably gives them the creeps. Posted by: Andrea at February 9, 2006 8:44 PM
See, my take on this is kinda skewed. I attended a residential high school for g/t juniors and seniors. The material was plenty challenging, but there was an unspoken rule that if you were *really* smart, you never studied. Looking back, it angers me. We were being handed amazing opportunities to learn and grow, and instead we acted like arrogant little shits. I think, as you pointed out in your post, the real secret was that very few of us actually knew how to work, so we developed this messed up anti-work ethic to compensate. Such a waste. Posted by: Casey at February 10, 2006 3:13 PM
I dropped out of highschool as a sophomore because I was too incredibly bored. I didn't get any of my credits because I missed too many days even though I was still and A and B student without ever having to study or try. The public school system in America seriously needs help. At my elemtary we had gate, but they pulled us out of regular class too attend and we had to make up our regular classes so I just quit going. Posted by: Stefani at June 5, 2007 4:34 PM
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