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October 22, 2007 See, I knew I was a good catch
Dear Readers, I rest my case. Feminists, far from being ugly man-hating bitches who are only angry because they can't get laid, not only report better relationship satisfaction than their non-feminist counterparts, but a better sex life, too: Abstract Past research suggests that women and men alike perceive feminism and romance to be in conflict (Rudman and Fairchild, Psychol Women Q, 31:125–136, 2007). A survey of US undergraduates (N = 242) and an online survey of older US adults (N = 289) examined the accuracy of this perception. Using self-reported feminism and perceived partners’ feminism as predictors of relationship health, results revealed that having a feminist partner was linked to healthier relationships for women. Additionally, men with feminist partners reported greater relationship stability and sexual satisfaction in the online survey. Finally, there was no support for negative feminist stereotypes (i.e., that feminists are single, lesbians, or unattractive). In concert, the findings reveal that beliefs regarding the incompatibility of feminism and romance are inaccurate. As reported at The Globe and Mail. Isn't it great to be right? Look at that sea of nodding heads. Of course people in feminist relationships are happier and have better sex. Let's count the many reasons why: 1. Because feminists believe in equality, they are more likely to work at and achieve partnerships that are satisfying for both people. 2. They are less likely to fall into those stereotyped gendered behaviours that are the source of so much sitcom relationship angst. 3. They are more likely to see their partners are individuals and people first, rather than as representatives of a type. 4. Because feminists have by and large discarded the tired old stereotypes about what women and men are supposed to want, they are freer to explore what it is they actually do want. For example, most feminists believe that women like sex just as much as men do, and for the same range of messy, sometimes glorious, sometimes selfish, sometimes ignoble reasons. Feminists, by and large, do not believe that all women only like sex as part of a committed relationship within which they can explore intimacy with a beloved partner, and without which they can't be bothered (and don't label any woman who doesn't fit the stereotype a "slut"). It is a lot easier to have a lot more fun having sex with someone who is not lying back and thinking of England. "What are you talking about, Andrea?" Sorry. I assumed you knew that until the 20th century, it was considered psychologically pathological for a woman to enjoy sex at all, to the point where a woman who conceived out of wedlock was considered mentally ill by default and committed to an asylum; and where women who showed evidence of libido were subjected to psychiatric "treatments" revolving around the application of caustic liquids to their genitals. Those of you who are female are surely well aware of the stock-in-trade in the women's magazine industry and most self-help books relying on the same tired old stereotypes, now slightly updated to allow women to enjoy sex so long as it is with their One True Love (trademarked by deBoers), and a path of true intimacy, enlightenment, and deep emotional sharing. Women, after all, are still the Angels in the House, and as such are not permitted to have an animal nature. Except that the feminists I know have thrown all that out like the garbage it is. 5. Feminists by definition do not believe that men are innately more intelligent, more interesting, or more important than women. Study after study has shown that despite whatever gains we think we've made, when an objective observer watches men and women interact, most women still serve men, unconsciously and reflexively, and most men act as if they still expect it. It ought to go without saying that any relationship in which only the happiness of one partner really counts is a relationship that ultimately will make no one happy. It ought to really go without saying that any sexually intimate relationship in which sex is still defined as "male partner has orgasm during penetration" (the traditional definition), which by default makes male experience central to the relationship and relegates female experience to the margin, will eventually suck for both parties. What do you say, Dear Readers? Any reasons I have overlooked? But wait! There is a outcry from the peanut gallery!* Josh Taylor from St. John's, Canada writes: Every woman and man should be into equality. All the self proclaimed 'feminists' I met in college were just plain bitter. They are taking years of abuse that they didn't suffer out on the one man who is nice enough to tolerate them. Nuff said. Uh huh. Well, Josh, speaking from my own experience, all of the men I've met who had problems with feminists were misogynistic pea-brained twerps, deeply threatened by any woman not willing to assume the doormat position. Mr. Justice from Canada writes: Most women ARE feminists. Men who want to know what women really think of them should watch THE LIFETIME CHANNEL or THE VIEW, or . . . simply eavesdrop on women-only conversations at restaurants (and other places, obviously). Turns out 'the news' for men isn't good, but it's important for men to know what most women really think of them. Yes! Because the women on The View are the secret heads of a worldwide feminist organization that coordinates our daily activities through seemingly mindless entertainment, all to achieve the eventual goal of the coming Matriarchy! James Cyr from Balmertown, Ontario, Canada writes: joanne dewey: that 'traditional' definition is based on my meetings with so-called feminists and thus is well based in fact. They came across as belligerent, agressive, rude and rather obnoxious. They came across as having a chip on their shoulder and having something to prove. What are you saying exactly, James? Are you calling me belligerent? Are you? Come over here and let me show you belligerence, you .... I mean, aww sweetie, I'm so sorry you've had such a rough time with girls not seeing your obvious charms and your inborn natural need to dominate. Come over here and let me bake you a pie. I can't imagine what about your personality might provoke a belligerent, rude or obnoxious response in feminist women. Does it count as having "something to prove" if I insist on hanging my own shelves but then cover them with crafty stuff? Vladimir Kolcza from Toronto, Canada writes: I think that many people harbour stereotypes about 'feminists' because so many such stereotypes populate government offices and service counters. Vladimir, on behalf of female civil servants throughout Ontario, I can only offer our deepest, most heartfelt apologies on the lack of glamour in our professional wardrobes. joe cormorant from Canada writes: I don't think an arrogant self-absorbed bitc& is sexy. Sorry, I just don't. Fortunately, Joe, this arrogant self-absorbed bitch doesn't think you're so hot either. Gogh Forit from Canada writes: Let me get this straight. The authors of the study are feminists and they concluded that feminists are sexy. No bias there. Pure scientific study at work here. I mean why would anyone question the credibility of this life altering piece of science. And just what is a "feminist" man. Is that a guy who has no testicles or simply that he's not allowed exhibit any male behaviour whatsoever. Well, Gogh, speaking only for myself, yes, that is exactly what I require of feminist men. Castration. No male behaviour whatsoever. In fact, let me just hand you this padded bra and we'll make the transformation complete. (I'm just pretending to be straight, you see.) It gets complicated when the man I've just castrated has to wear a dildo ... never mind. Harbinger from Out West from Prince George, Canada writes: And all this time I thought God created feminists to give ugly women jobs. Boy! Was I wrong. Boy! Were you. Pete Flint from Andover, MA, United States writes: Feminists are always ugly man-hating dykes. Possibly the most physically unattractive group on the planet. Most dogs have more appealing features. Plus, they are usually fat and braless, which makes normal humans puke at the sight of them. Pete, thank you for this clarification. This certainly explains why I have that odd aroma following me everywhere I go. I thought it was just the subway that stank, but now I know: it's because normal people puke at the sight of me. It's a good thing I work in the civil service, where I am surrounded all day by other unglamorous, manly, stupid, bitter, fat feminists. This is what a feminist looks like. And hanging off my right arm in both pictures is the direct and incontrovertible proof that, at least once about five years ago, I had sex with a man. ~~~~~ *The peanut gallery is the on-line discussion on the Globe and Mail site. I haven't seen such a collection of feminist stereotyping since the days I used to post regularly on the BUST boards. And I haven't had so much fun mocking people in I don't know how long. Far as I'm concerned, if you're going to go on the public record with such outlandish sentiments, then you deserve every bit of flak you get. Posted by Andrea at October 22, 2007 7:25 AM under Female Trouble EMAIL this entry (comments fields are below this section) Comments That explains why I'm single!! I must be a feminist...it is my right to chose who I want and in the town I live it's slim pickin's to begin with...so with that said...I'm happy being who I am than with someone who'd rather I be a doormat. Posted by: LauraJ at October 22, 2007 9:24 AM
People like that bash what they fear and they fear what they don't understand. They fear a happy woman because they are ashamed at not being able to satisfy her. Moreover, they are tiring. Posted by: amy at October 22, 2007 9:24 AM
Amy, you're right, and I should have ignored them, but good Maude mocking them was fun. Laura, I know! I think my exact thoughts were: those are completely ridiculous and impractical. I must have them. And I think you are way too good for most of hte guys you've written about. Posted by: Andrea
Boy! that was funny, Andrea. I used to work for the Ontario Public Service (and am now a Fed public servant) and I don't remember seeing those legions of fat, grey-haired, surly, un-made-up women. Hmmm, they must have been on the other shift. I'm a feminist, and I have lots of bras! Pretty ones, too. Posted by: alison at October 22, 2007 10:32 AM
I really don't understand why newspapers are formatting their sites to allow for reader comments. Too often I have snuck in to read the comments and it has raised my ire so much, I spend the rest of the day unable to concentrate. That happened when a bunch of people who were totally uninformed decided to comment about the recent court case involving the blood scandal. I am (obviously, being a blogger) all for people finding a place to voice their opinions freely, but I think it's out of place on a news site. I'm not naive, and I know that often reporters aren't doing their homework, but at least the Society of Professional Journalists have a code of ethics which requires them to be accountable for what they write. Posted by: NotSoSage at October 22, 2007 11:55 AM
Sage, I think it's advertising. An article without comments is one that people will read once. And article with comments is one that people willc ome back to read again and again to find out how the conversation is going. Thus increasing page views and advertising revenues. I have no proof or anything, but I'm sure that's it. Posted by: Andrea
Okay, so for the first 9/10 of this post I was thinking about the idiocy of the world, which I sometimes forget until I read things like those comments that remind me what people are willing to say when there's even a shred of anonymity involved... but then I saw the pictures and my heart melted over Frances, as that's the first (partial) face-showing picture of her I've seend. And then I had to get mad all over again about the fact that so many kids are coming of age during this backlash against feminism. The advertising thing makes sense, and I'm definitely guilty of going back to things just to see if maybe the comments have become less terrible... Posted by: epi at October 22, 2007 2:02 PM
Okay I am back because as I'm crafting away in my little room and thinking of swaps it dawned on me...what about the WHOYCBE?? Will that be on this year? Posted by: LauraJ at October 22, 2007 4:40 PM
My first glimpse of Frances! And she's so lovely! But arrgh! I always find it shocking that people still exist with beliefs like that. But then, I work for the Ontario Public Service, where I'm surrounded by people like me -- you know, stupid, fat, ugly manly women. Those *ssholes SO deserve to be mocked. Posted by: cinnamon gurl at October 22, 2007 5:04 PM
You are gorgeous, girl! I'm sure that is why Francis is such a beautiful peanut! Posted by: Laura at October 22, 2007 6:38 PM
The G&M comments are endlessly amusing and infuriating no matter the topic, but yes, the feminist topics seem to bring out the crazies more often than not. I'm disheartened that there is such a feminist backlash these days, even from young women I encounter today: "Oh, I'm not a feminist," said as if it's akin to murderer. And then I ask "so, do you believe you're equal to men?" "well, yes." "Then you're a feminist." "No, I'm not." Posted by: suze at October 22, 2007 7:00 PM
I loved this post! Posted by: Angela at October 22, 2007 7:02 PM
Andrea, it took reading this post but I just realized, 7 1/2 years into it, that I haven't been much of a feminist in my marriage. I (we)have a long way to go, but it started tonight with a discussion about housework more frank than we've ever had, and believe me, we've had more such discussions than Mondays. Thanks for this. Posted by: sster at October 22, 2007 7:41 PM
Ack. Must come back to actually read this post tomorrow b/c it is 1 am and I am wiped but it caught my in Google Reader and as I quickly scrolled through to see if I had the wide-eyed-edness to actually read it tonight, I saw the pictures. Yay! You! You are a catch and Frances too. This is indeed what a feminist looks like. I'll be back with my brain and not just my eyes. Posted by: Mad Hatter at October 22, 2007 10:53 PM
a fine skewering of some of the more idiotic vitriol from the misogynist peanut gallery...dogdamn, the backlash depresses me. and dogdamn, you're a cute pair! Frances' smile is just beautiful. (so are the pink boots). Posted by: Bon at October 23, 2007 9:33 AM
Once upon a time, I thought believing in my own equality and that of others was enough and the title didn't matter. It was a long time before I realised my unwillingness to embrace the word feminist and identify myself as such was contributing to the post-feminist backlash. It's not enough for my partner and my family to know I'm a feminist, I have to be one of the smart, confident, sexy women who introduces herself to the Pete Flints and Gogh Forits of the world as a feminist. We have to stop thinking we've achieved equality in this world and the hard work is over. We still have a long way to do in the world at large and, for some of us (myself included), within our personal relationships. Thanks for reminding me we're not done. Posted by: Morrigan at October 23, 2007 10:13 AM
OK, I'm back. This was hilarious. And sad. Very sad. It's funny but I almost bought Miss M a t-shirt a while back that said "This is what a feminist looks like." I didn't b/c it was sold in one of those hip urban baby shops on Queen West and I just couldn't bring myself to do it. Not that I didn't buy something at that shop. I just couldn't buy a slogan it was selling. Weird. Now I think I will go and knit her a sweater (fushia with purple lettering, I reckon) that says it. Or some such other joyous proclamation. And you and Frances are delicious. Posted by: Mad Hatter at October 23, 2007 10:53 AM
Not wishing to carp but what's this bit about? "Finally, there was no support for negative feminist stereotypes (i.e., that feminists are single, lesbians, or unattractive)." Are they saying no feminists are single, lesbian or unattractive? I don't believe that any more than I believe they all are. Or that they are no more likely to any of these (implied terrible and unpleasant) things than non-feminists? Apart from that, it's good to see confirmation of what we all know - that striving for relationships that are equal and beneficial for both parties makes them happier overall. Plus v cute pics of you and semi-pics of Frances ;) Posted by: Emily at October 28, 2007 5:25 PM
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